{"id":2022,"date":"2012-10-20T13:44:59","date_gmt":"2012-10-20T17:44:59","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/2d823b65bb.nxcli.io\/?p=2022"},"modified":"2012-10-24T18:13:35","modified_gmt":"2012-10-24T22:13:35","slug":"from-the-whispers-of-apachecon","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.robweir.com\/blog\/2012\/10\/from-the-whispers-of-apachecon.html","title":{"rendered":"From the Whispers of ApacheCon&#8230;"},"content":{"rendered":"<blockquote>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">From the whispers of ApacheCon, OpenOffice.org may never leave the incubator project. The intention may be to do a thorough code audit and produce one last, clean release that the rival LibreOffice can absorb.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">That was what you may have heard 10 months ago,\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/www.linuxuser.co.uk\/opinion\/apache-openoffice-who-knows-where-the-time-goes\"> if you listened to the rumormongers.<\/a>\u00a0\u00a0 Certainly there were a lot of rumors being spread.\u00a0 (Or should we call it FUD?)\u00a0 Whatever you call it, the whispers continued, in a negative propaganda campaign that the open source community should be ashamed to be associated with. \u00a0 Even just a few weeks ago I heard from one LibreOffice lead that he was certain that the Apache OpenOffice podling would never graduate and that we&#8217;d fail, give up, shut down the project and give the OpenOffice trademarks to LibreOffice.\u00a0 I&#8217;m sorry to disappoint, but this kind of FUD has an expiration date, and that date is now.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">From the whispers of ApacheCon&#8230;<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">Yes, you will hear talk of OpenOffice at ApacheCon next month, a lot of it, but it will be quite in the open, no whispers there.\u00a0 The Apache OpenOffice Project, no longer a &#8220;podling&#8221;, (Did I neglect to mention that we <a href=\"http:\/\/blogs.apache.org\/OOo\/entry\/openoffice_graduates_from_the_apache\">graduated from the Apache Incubator<\/a> in a unanimous ASF Board resolution?) will be running a <a href=\"http:\/\/www.apachecon.eu\/tracks\/#openoffice\">track dedicated to OpenOffice<\/a> and related technologies.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">And as for a clean release that LibreOffice can &#8220;absorb&#8221;, they are welcome to it.\u00a0 In fact they have for several months now been merging (<a href=\"http:\/\/wiki.documentfoundation.org\/Development\/Relicensing\">&#8220;rebasing&#8221; is there preferred term<\/a>) Apache OpenOffice code into LibreOffice, and I couldn&#8217;t be happier about it.\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Ironically, after demonizing the permissive Apache License,\u00a0 it is for this very reason that LibreOffice is doing this &#8220;rebasing&#8221;, to escape from the constraints of LGPL. \u00a0 After all the demagoguery, their source files will now carry an Apache License notice.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">I need not repeat the long list of other false predictions and rumors: that we would never be able to bring the product&#8217;s IP up to Apache standards (we did), that we would not be able to issue security patches for OpenOffice (we did),\u00a0 that we would never get a release out the door (we did, twice), that we had delayed too long in our release and were thus irrelevant (we had more downloads in 4 months than LibreOffice has had\u00a0 in 2 years), that we would never contribute developers to the OpenOffice effort (we have), that we would never donate Symphony to Apache (we did), that we would dominate the project (we don&#8217;t) or that we would force Symphony to be the new base of OpenOffice (we didn&#8217;t), etc.\u00a0 The FUD went on and on and continues even today, combined with exaggerations of their own modest achievements.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">It is probably a vain hope to expect the FUD to stop now that we&#8217;ve graduated, though I would be happy to be wrong.\u00a0 But at the very least I think we&#8217;ve established a record of accomplishment that stands in stark contrast to the repeated false predictions of the anti-Apache whisper campaign.\u00a0 And it is worth noting this,\u00a0 and preserving some skepticism when hearing further FUD from these same sources.\u00a0\u00a0 And this is something worth saying louder than a whisper.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>From the whispers of ApacheCon, OpenOffice.org may never leave the incubator project. 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