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	<title>Comments on: National Grammar Day, Bah Humbug!</title>
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		<title>By: Rob</title>
		<link>http://www.robweir.com/blog/2010/03/national-grammar-day.html#comment-3194</link>
		<dc:creator>Rob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Mar 2010 15:16:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grammatical_particle&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&quot;particle&quot;&lt;/a&gt; is a grammatical term as well, but it is -- as you indicate --  the wrong one in this context.   Me bad.  If one is to dangle, it is certainly more fun to dangle your participles.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grammatical_particle" rel="nofollow">&#8220;particle&#8221;</a> is a grammatical term as well, but it is &#8212; as you indicate &#8212;  the wrong one in this context.   Me bad.  If one is to dangle, it is certainly more fun to dangle your participles.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Puttick</title>
		<link>http://www.robweir.com/blog/2010/03/national-grammar-day.html#comment-3192</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris Puttick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Mar 2010 13:38:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Surely you mean participles. There is grammar, good or bad for communication as it may be; but the correct words are surely important...

Unless that was an instruction to passing physicists?

:)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Surely you mean participles. There is grammar, good or bad for communication as it may be; but the correct words are surely important&#8230;</p>
<p>Unless that was an instruction to passing physicists?</p>
<p>:)</p>
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		<title>By: Winter</title>
		<link>http://www.robweir.com/blog/2010/03/national-grammar-day.html#comment-3174</link>
		<dc:creator>Winter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Mar 2010 08:02:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is Syntax, and there is Grammar.

Syntax is about the rules of word form and order that you observe to be used in a language. Mostly in speech. This is about how people communicate in real life in spoken, written, and gestured words. A fertile field of learning with many amazing insights in cognition.

Grammar are the rules you learn for writing text. It doubles for helping adults to master speaking a new language.

Writing is not a natural, human language. More like mathematics or computer language. The written language needs prescriptive rules because writing words down as you say them makes for unreadable text. Grammar rules have to be explicit, simple, and few as they have to be learned and memorized by children in school. There is no way any grammar can cover even a sizable fraction of human expression.

Most people (almost all non-linguists and some linguists) make the reification fallacy: Because the word Grammar exists, there must exist a corresponding entity in language. Therefore, you should speak as you have learned to write. 

As it is impossible to actually speak as you write, and incomprehensible to write as you speak, the harm of this superstition is very limited.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is Syntax, and there is Grammar.</p>
<p>Syntax is about the rules of word form and order that you observe to be used in a language. Mostly in speech. This is about how people communicate in real life in spoken, written, and gestured words. A fertile field of learning with many amazing insights in cognition.</p>
<p>Grammar are the rules you learn for writing text. It doubles for helping adults to master speaking a new language.</p>
<p>Writing is not a natural, human language. More like mathematics or computer language. The written language needs prescriptive rules because writing words down as you say them makes for unreadable text. Grammar rules have to be explicit, simple, and few as they have to be learned and memorized by children in school. There is no way any grammar can cover even a sizable fraction of human expression.</p>
<p>Most people (almost all non-linguists and some linguists) make the reification fallacy: Because the word Grammar exists, there must exist a corresponding entity in language. Therefore, you should speak as you have learned to write. </p>
<p>As it is impossible to actually speak as you write, and incomprehensible to write as you speak, the harm of this superstition is very limited.</p>
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		<title>By: Michelle O'Rorke</title>
		<link>http://www.robweir.com/blog/2010/03/national-grammar-day.html#comment-3171</link>
		<dc:creator>Michelle O'Rorke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Mar 2010 22:34:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rob

You may find this blog interesting:  http://motivatedgrammar.wordpress.com/

It is written by a grammarian who also does not like National Grammer Day, or &quot;prescriptivists&quot; who insits on fixed &#039;correct&#039; grammar.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rob</p>
<p>You may find this blog interesting:  <a href="http://motivatedgrammar.wordpress.com/" rel="nofollow">http://motivatedgrammar.wordpress.com/</a></p>
<p>It is written by a grammarian who also does not like National Grammer Day, or &#8220;prescriptivists&#8221; who insits on fixed &#8216;correct&#8217; grammar.</p>
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