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	<title>Comments on: Toy Soldiers</title>
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		<title>By: Rob</title>
		<link>http://www.robweir.com/blog/2008/07/toy-soliders.html#comment-2008</link>
		<dc:creator>Rob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jul 2008 15:26:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Bart, yes CleverAge is using translation as a way of getting ODF support into their plugin.  But that technique has proven itself to be a performance nightmare, and even those vendors who were supportive of that effort, like Novell and Microsoft, have already announced that they will abandon that translation approach in favor of adding direct, native support, without using translation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Bart, yes CleverAge is using translation as a way of getting ODF support into their plugin.  But that technique has proven itself to be a performance nightmare, and even those vendors who were supportive of that effort, like Novell and Microsoft, have already announced that they will abandon that translation approach in favor of adding direct, native support, without using translation.</p>
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		<title>By: Bart Hanssens</title>
		<link>http://www.robweir.com/blog/2008/07/toy-soliders.html#comment-2006</link>
		<dc:creator>Bart Hanssens</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jul 2008 12:44:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mm, actually the Microsoft / CleverAge converter on sourceforge does translate between ODF 1.0 and Microsoft OpenXML, and if I recall correctly, converting a legacy .doc to .odt in MSO2003 using this plugin does involve saving it to .docx first and translating this intermediate file to .odt.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Granted, it still needs work and I don&#039;t know if they have a roadmap on supporting ISO&#039;s OOXML.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Given that ODF 1.1 isn&#039;t an ISO standard but 1.0 is, I can see their logic behind it... Then again, I agree with you that it will be much more useful to translate between the final versions of OOXML and ODF 1.2. &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;And you&#039;re right about the ODF versions, I&#039;ve already seen ODF (pre-) 1.2 documents in the wild, even outside the IT-basements...&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Best regards,&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Bart H</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mm, actually the Microsoft / CleverAge converter on sourceforge does translate between ODF 1.0 and Microsoft OpenXML, and if I recall correctly, converting a legacy .doc to .odt in MSO2003 using this plugin does involve saving it to .docx first and translating this intermediate file to .odt.</p>
<p>Granted, it still needs work and I don&#8217;t know if they have a roadmap on supporting ISO&#8217;s OOXML.</p>
<p>Given that ODF 1.1 isn&#8217;t an ISO standard but 1.0 is, I can see their logic behind it&#8230; Then again, I agree with you that it will be much more useful to translate between the final versions of OOXML and ODF 1.2. </p>
<p>And you&#8217;re right about the ODF versions, I&#8217;ve already seen ODF (pre-) 1.2 documents in the wild, even outside the IT-basements&#8230;</p>
<p>Best regards,</p>
<p>Bart H</p>
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		<title>By: orlando</title>
		<link>http://www.robweir.com/blog/2008/07/toy-soliders.html#comment-2005</link>
		<dc:creator>orlando</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jul 2008 19:13:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;&quot;Maybe ISO should stand for Invisible Standards Organization?&quot;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;marvelous !&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;thank you for this insightful article&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;greetings&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;     orlando</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>&#8220;Maybe ISO should stand for Invisible Standards Organization?&#8221;</i></p>
<p>marvelous !</p>
<p>thank you for this insightful article</p>
<p>greetings</p>
<p>     orlando</p>
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