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		<title>By: Queen Elizabeth</title>
		<link>http://www.robweir.com/blog/2007/08/pseudorandom-thoughts.html#comment-1148</link>
		<dc:creator>Queen Elizabeth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Sep 2007 18:22:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dark Phoenix: The issue is not about critiquing standards. It is that many government bodies have decided to use ISO standards exclusively.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;This mandate transforms standards into economic weapons: if you can stop the competition&#039;s technology from becoming a standard, you shut them out of the market (or force them to retool at great cost.)&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;It is not really all different than non-tariff barriers to trade.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dark Phoenix: The issue is not about critiquing standards. It is that many government bodies have decided to use ISO standards exclusively.</p>
<p>This mandate transforms standards into economic weapons: if you can stop the competition&#8217;s technology from becoming a standard, you shut them out of the market (or force them to retool at great cost.)</p>
<p>It is not really all different than non-tariff barriers to trade.</p>
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		<title>By: segedunum</title>
		<link>http://www.robweir.com/blog/2007/08/pseudorandom-thoughts.html#comment-1146</link>
		<dc:creator>segedunum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Sep 2007 13:53:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;&quot;Most standards bodies are filled with &#039;an old guard&#039; membership that needs rejuvenation&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;If Rick Jelliffe has seen fit to publish my comment, I pointed that out as well, simply because I found that part absolutely hilarious.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;It&#039;s corny, but I really couldn&#039;t help but think of that Darth Vader line in RTJ: &quot;Perhaps I can find news ways to motivate them&quot;.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I mean, whichever way you cut it and no matter how much you second guess yourself over how ridiculous this whole things is, it&#039;s gone beyond a joke now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>&#8220;Most standards bodies are filled with &#8216;an old guard&#8217; membership that needs rejuvenation</i></p>
<p>If Rick Jelliffe has seen fit to publish my comment, I pointed that out as well, simply because I found that part absolutely hilarious.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s corny, but I really couldn&#8217;t help but think of that Darth Vader line in RTJ: &#8220;Perhaps I can find news ways to motivate them&#8221;.</p>
<p>I mean, whichever way you cut it and no matter how much you second guess yourself over how ridiculous this whole things is, it&#8217;s gone beyond a joke now.</p>
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		<title>By: Dark Phoenix (Nixa)</title>
		<link>http://www.robweir.com/blog/2007/08/pseudorandom-thoughts.html#comment-1145</link>
		<dc:creator>Dark Phoenix (Nixa)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Sep 2007 13:25:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Interestingly, IBM&#039;s conduct might easily be read as transgressing that decision: it is attempting to use the standards process to shut out (or greatly set back) Microsoft, the competition.&quot;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Oh, okay, note that no one is allowed to disagree with a standard anymore, since it might be harmful to the competition.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I find Live.com&#039;s attempt at spinning the IDC survey results to be greatly humorous; now there&#039;s a section at the bottom noting that everyone who comes from here should read &quot;an important article&quot;, the contents of which talk about how IBM is out to shaft Microsoft because they want total control of the standards market.  Uh, huh.  Heard that one before.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Interestingly, IBM&#8217;s conduct might easily be read as transgressing that decision: it is attempting to use the standards process to shut out (or greatly set back) Microsoft, the competition.&#8221;</p>
<p>Oh, okay, note that no one is allowed to disagree with a standard anymore, since it might be harmful to the competition.</p>
<p>I find Live.com&#8217;s attempt at spinning the IDC survey results to be greatly humorous; now there&#8217;s a section at the bottom noting that everyone who comes from here should read &#8220;an important article&#8221;, the contents of which talk about how IBM is out to shaft Microsoft because they want total control of the standards market.  Uh, huh.  Heard that one before.</p>
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		<title>By: James H</title>
		<link>http://www.robweir.com/blog/2007/08/pseudorandom-thoughts.html#comment-1144</link>
		<dc:creator>James H</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Sep 2007 11:50:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a HREF=&quot;http://www.prnewswire.com/cgi-bin/stories.pl?ACCT=104&amp;STORY=/www/story/09-04-2007/0004655552&amp;EDATE=&quot; REL=&quot;nofollow&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;MS press release&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;It&#039;s semi-official it seems - or at least MS seems to see it going down....&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;It failed to get the rubber stamp and now has to go through BRM etc to have any chance of making it. That press release makes me dizzy however....</description>
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<p>It&#8217;s semi-official it seems &#8211; or at least MS seems to see it going down&#8230;.</p>
<p>It failed to get the rubber stamp and now has to go through BRM etc to have any chance of making it. That press release makes me dizzy however&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: James H</title>
		<link>http://www.robweir.com/blog/2007/08/pseudorandom-thoughts.html#comment-1141</link>
		<dc:creator>James H</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Sep 2007 17:56:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If I count correctly (and I might be wrong) we just passed the 25% no threshold. MS-OOXML has failed to pass the ISO vote. What great news :)&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Now to see if the BRM happens and laugh at ECMA&#039;s and MS&#039;s proposed solutions to the extremely detailed technical comments from the likes of Denmark and so on. &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;What great news :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If I count correctly (and I might be wrong) we just passed the 25% no threshold. MS-OOXML has failed to pass the ISO vote. What great news :)</p>
<p>Now to see if the BRM happens and laugh at ECMA&#8217;s and MS&#8217;s proposed solutions to the extremely detailed technical comments from the likes of Denmark and so on. </p>
<p>What great news :)</p>
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		<title>By: Rob</title>
		<link>http://www.robweir.com/blog/2007/08/pseudorandom-thoughts.html#comment-1139</link>
		<dc:creator>Rob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Sep 2007 00:32:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My reading of JTC1 Directives 13.7 is that a NB may send one or more delegates to the BRM, though each delegation receives only one vote.  Typically a delegation is sent with instructions by their NB on how to vote, or under what circumstances they may change their vote.  Since the BRM is scheduled to be a week-long meeting, this may allow each delegation to consult with its NB between daily sessions for further instructions.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;As to whether shame or other such pressures would prevent Microsoft from further stacking committees in the future, I see no evidence that this has or will have any effect.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;See what Microsoft&#039;s &lt;a HREF=&quot;http://news.yahoo.com/s/pcworld/20070830/tc_pcworld/136627&quot; REL=&quot;nofollow&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Tom Robertson&lt;/a&gt; says of the overall strategy:&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&quot;Most standards bodies are filled with &#039;an old guard&#039; membership that needs rejuvenation, he said. He also likened Microsoft&#039;s recruitment efforts to a voter registration drive.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My reading of JTC1 Directives 13.7 is that a NB may send one or more delegates to the BRM, though each delegation receives only one vote.  Typically a delegation is sent with instructions by their NB on how to vote, or under what circumstances they may change their vote.  Since the BRM is scheduled to be a week-long meeting, this may allow each delegation to consult with its NB between daily sessions for further instructions.</p>
<p>As to whether shame or other such pressures would prevent Microsoft from further stacking committees in the future, I see no evidence that this has or will have any effect.</p>
<p>See what Microsoft&#8217;s <a HREF="http://news.yahoo.com/s/pcworld/20070830/tc_pcworld/136627" REL="nofollow" rel="nofollow">Tom Robertson</a> says of the overall strategy:</p>
<p>&#8220;Most standards bodies are filled with &#8216;an old guard&#8217; membership that needs rejuvenation, he said. He also likened Microsoft&#8217;s recruitment efforts to a voter registration drive.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: PolR</title>
		<link>http://www.robweir.com/blog/2007/08/pseudorandom-thoughts.html#comment-1138</link>
		<dc:creator>PolR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Sep 2007 19:08:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>After what happened in Sweden, any sudden surge in Microsoft Gold Partners membership will be viewed with extreme suspicion. Some NBs have been forced to change their votes after the Sweden story. The plan Rob outlines may prove tough to pull out.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Who attends a BRM? Is it one delegate per NB? Or does the entire NB committee need to go? Because if there are sudden unannounced surges in memberships across several NBs the logistics for the room size and other accommodations may prove awkward to manage. I suppose there should be some sort of cut off date where notice of the number of members need to be sent. This may help someone to see surge in membership coming.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>After what happened in Sweden, any sudden surge in Microsoft Gold Partners membership will be viewed with extreme suspicion. Some NBs have been forced to change their votes after the Sweden story. The plan Rob outlines may prove tough to pull out.</p>
<p>Who attends a BRM? Is it one delegate per NB? Or does the entire NB committee need to go? Because if there are sudden unannounced surges in memberships across several NBs the logistics for the room size and other accommodations may prove awkward to manage. I suppose there should be some sort of cut off date where notice of the number of members need to be sent. This may help someone to see surge in membership coming.</p>
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		<title>By: Bruce</title>
		<link>http://www.robweir.com/blog/2007/08/pseudorandom-thoughts.html#comment-1137</link>
		<dc:creator>Bruce</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Sep 2007 16:32:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rob -- given the shenanigans that everyone  is now seeing, how likely is it to see reform at ISO to head-off your worst-case scenario? No sure how one would do that, but surely there must be some collective anger/shame/anxiety about all this at ISO such that there will be a push to do something?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rob &#8212; given the shenanigans that everyone  is now seeing, how likely is it to see reform at ISO to head-off your worst-case scenario? No sure how one would do that, but surely there must be some collective anger/shame/anxiety about all this at ISO such that there will be a push to do something?</p>
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		<title>By: Bruce</title>
		<link>http://www.robweir.com/blog/2007/08/pseudorandom-thoughts.html#comment-1136</link>
		<dc:creator>Bruce</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Sep 2007 16:30:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>anonymous: &quot;OF and ODF1.2 are nearly done but according to the OoO roadmap we are going to have to wait until Oct 2008 to see OoO3.0 before the new standards are implemented. Is this long delay necessary? It seems that it would be tactically (in the battle for business desktops) a good thing to have the new standard supported ASAP.&quot;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Sure, so then talk to the implementors and them you want this sooner. &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I do think the OOo project thinks it a priority to support ODF 1.2 ASAP. And as Rob notes, there likely won&#039;t be that big a time gap between final approval of the standard and implementation. &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I&#039;d prefer a good spec that sees multiple good implementations, than the fiasco that is OOXML.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>anonymous: &#8220;OF and ODF1.2 are nearly done but according to the OoO roadmap we are going to have to wait until Oct 2008 to see OoO3.0 before the new standards are implemented. Is this long delay necessary? It seems that it would be tactically (in the battle for business desktops) a good thing to have the new standard supported ASAP.&#8221;</p>
<p>Sure, so then talk to the implementors and them you want this sooner. </p>
<p>I do think the OOo project thinks it a priority to support ODF 1.2 ASAP. And as Rob notes, there likely won&#8217;t be that big a time gap between final approval of the standard and implementation. </p>
<p>I&#8217;d prefer a good spec that sees multiple good implementations, than the fiasco that is OOXML.</p>
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		<title>By: Rob</title>
		<link>http://www.robweir.com/blog/2007/08/pseudorandom-thoughts.html#comment-1134</link>
		<dc:creator>Rob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Sep 2007 15:43:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The OpenFormula mailing list is dead because the formula subcommittee already submitted its draft to the main ODF TC for their review.  Based on the review there we have a few items to work on, such as moving the test cases into a separate document.  &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Also, we have this thing in the Northern hemisphere called summer.  Very little gets done in August when you are working with an international committee of volunteers.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;As for ODF 1.2, aside from integrating the formula and metadata work, we still need to go through and address comments received via our public comment list since ODF 1.1.  &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Segedunum correctly points out the optimal strategy for Microsoft.  Say hypothetically that the ballot results come out such that Microsoft is short by 5 P-member votes.  So they need to get 5, any 5, P-members to change their  No vote to Yes.  They of course could change the standard to accommodate the concerns of those who voted No, but I don&#039;t see that happening. &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Another approach would be to get every NB that voted for OOXML to join at a P-member level, in order to bolster their numbers.  Microsoft has already done this, but it may not be enough.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;So the next easier approach would be to take 5 NB&#039;s and have 20 Microsoft Gold Business Partners join the committees and turn them into pliant tools that will just vote Yes at the BRM without any changes being made the the standard.  If they do that, and get their 2/3 vote, then they can merely vote to approve, vote to adjourn, and then finish with the BRM in 10 minutes.  Aside from the expense of airfare, it is a painless solution.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The OpenFormula mailing list is dead because the formula subcommittee already submitted its draft to the main ODF TC for their review.  Based on the review there we have a few items to work on, such as moving the test cases into a separate document.  </p>
<p>Also, we have this thing in the Northern hemisphere called summer.  Very little gets done in August when you are working with an international committee of volunteers.</p>
<p>As for ODF 1.2, aside from integrating the formula and metadata work, we still need to go through and address comments received via our public comment list since ODF 1.1.  </p>
<p>Segedunum correctly points out the optimal strategy for Microsoft.  Say hypothetically that the ballot results come out such that Microsoft is short by 5 P-member votes.  So they need to get 5, any 5, P-members to change their  No vote to Yes.  They of course could change the standard to accommodate the concerns of those who voted No, but I don&#8217;t see that happening. </p>
<p>Another approach would be to get every NB that voted for OOXML to join at a P-member level, in order to bolster their numbers.  Microsoft has already done this, but it may not be enough.</p>
<p>So the next easier approach would be to take 5 NB&#8217;s and have 20 Microsoft Gold Business Partners join the committees and turn them into pliant tools that will just vote Yes at the BRM without any changes being made the the standard.  If they do that, and get their 2/3 vote, then they can merely vote to approve, vote to adjourn, and then finish with the BRM in 10 minutes.  Aside from the expense of airfare, it is a painless solution.</p>
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		<title>By: segedunum</title>
		<link>http://www.robweir.com/blog/2007/08/pseudorandom-thoughts.html#comment-1133</link>
		<dc:creator>segedunum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Sep 2007 13:19:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, presumably what will happen now will be that those committees who voted &#039;with comments&#039; will be flooded with new people (already happening) to debate those comments, and the net effect will be that OOXML is not changed in any way.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;This will probably give an apparent air that comments have been taken into account, when they simply haven&#039;t.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;It&#039;s funny how Microsoft have seemingly synchronised this with all the impartial observers out there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, presumably what will happen now will be that those committees who voted &#8216;with comments&#8217; will be flooded with new people (already happening) to debate those comments, and the net effect will be that OOXML is not changed in any way.</p>
<p>This will probably give an apparent air that comments have been taken into account, when they simply haven&#8217;t.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s funny how Microsoft have seemingly synchronised this with all the impartial observers out there.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://www.robweir.com/blog/2007/08/pseudorandom-thoughts.html#comment-1132</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Sep 2007 09:14:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Office-Formula mailing list has not had any messages since 20th July, a few days after D.Wheeler suggested that the work should be finished in July! So, if like me, you had been hoping to see a posting saying &#039;Well done everybody we&#039;ve finished!&#039; you are left wondering what is going on. :-)&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;On a similar topic, OF and ODF1.2 are   nearly done but according to the OoO roadmap we are going to have to wait until Oct 2008 to see OoO3.0 before the new standards are implemented. Is this long delay necessary? It seems that it would be tactically (in the battle for business desktops) a good thing to have the new standard supported ASAP. I for one would like to implement it in my company.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Office-Formula mailing list has not had any messages since 20th July, a few days after D.Wheeler suggested that the work should be finished in July! So, if like me, you had been hoping to see a posting saying &#8216;Well done everybody we&#8217;ve finished!&#8217; you are left wondering what is going on. :-)</p>
<p>On a similar topic, OF and ODF1.2 are   nearly done but according to the OoO roadmap we are going to have to wait until Oct 2008 to see OoO3.0 before the new standards are implemented. Is this long delay necessary? It seems that it would be tactically (in the battle for business desktops) a good thing to have the new standard supported ASAP. I for one would like to implement it in my company.</p>
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		<title>By: Bruce</title>
		<link>http://www.robweir.com/blog/2007/08/pseudorandom-thoughts.html#comment-1130</link>
		<dc:creator>Bruce</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Sep 2007 20:38:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>no, the OpenFormula work is just about done, and will be in ODF 1.2.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>no, the OpenFormula work is just about done, and will be in ODF 1.2.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://www.robweir.com/blog/2007/08/pseudorandom-thoughts.html#comment-1128</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Sep 2007 11:48:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rob,&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;is the OpenFormula subcomittee moribund? Current status is unclear.</description>
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<p>is the OpenFormula subcomittee moribund? Current status is unclear.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://www.robweir.com/blog/2007/08/pseudorandom-thoughts.html#comment-1126</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Sep 2007 07:41:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It sounds as if Rick Jelliffe may regret his temporary job promoting MS-OOXML. His entire column is little more than an attempt at self-justification. &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;In the footnote to his story he says: &quot;the stench of the four-paned beast is hard to wash off&quot;. That might be a rather weak attempt at humour, but it seems to cut very close to the truth.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;However the whole affair comes out in the end, I think this is going to be one of those events people will have long memories about.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It sounds as if Rick Jelliffe may regret his temporary job promoting MS-OOXML. His entire column is little more than an attempt at self-justification. </p>
<p>In the footnote to his story he says: &#8220;the stench of the four-paned beast is hard to wash off&#8221;. That might be a rather weak attempt at humour, but it seems to cut very close to the truth.</p>
<p>However the whole affair comes out in the end, I think this is going to be one of those events people will have long memories about.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://www.robweir.com/blog/2007/08/pseudorandom-thoughts.html#comment-1124</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Sep 2007 05:28:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The latest from the swedish is that one of the national voters did vote twice, and therefore sweden will not use it&#039;s vote.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;http://www.groklaw.net/article.php?story=20070830155109351</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The latest from the swedish is that one of the national voters did vote twice, and therefore sweden will not use it&#8217;s vote.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.groklaw.net/article.php?story=20070830155109351" rel="nofollow">http://www.groklaw.net/article.php?story=20070830155109351</a></p>
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		<title>By: Rob</title>
		<link>http://www.robweir.com/blog/2007/08/pseudorandom-thoughts.html#comment-1123</link>
		<dc:creator>Rob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Aug 2007 23:29:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>All members of ISO can vote, and all members of IEC can vote.  If a NB is a member of both (and most are) they still only get one vote.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All members of ISO can vote, and all members of IEC can vote.  If a NB is a member of both (and most are) they still only get one vote.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://www.robweir.com/blog/2007/08/pseudorandom-thoughts.html#comment-1122</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Aug 2007 23:07:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How many countries can vote on this in ISO? I read conflicting stories on this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How many countries can vote on this in ISO? I read conflicting stories on this.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://www.robweir.com/blog/2007/08/pseudorandom-thoughts.html#comment-1121</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Aug 2007 21:30:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>http://yro.slashdot.org/yro/07/08/31/2039226.shtml&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Looks like it&#039;s Slashdotting time?</description>
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<p>Looks like it&#8217;s Slashdotting time?</p>
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		<title>By: Rob</title>
		<link>http://www.robweir.com/blog/2007/08/pseudorandom-thoughts.html#comment-1120</link>
		<dc:creator>Rob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Aug 2007 21:26:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I know the feeling.  I&#039;ve been accused by one reader of having a staff of grunts pouring over the OOXML specification looking for problems, that this couldn&#039;t possibly be the work of one person, working part time on reviewing OOXML.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;My plan is to take that comment and show it to my boss when I have my annual performance review.  It should be worth something.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Or maybe I&#039;ll just rename my blog to &quot;My Name is Legion&quot; ?&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;But I do note that there has been a great sharing of information in the best open source tradition.  We say it in the 30-day contradiction period on Groklaw, and that idea caught on.  The US comments and mailing list archives were made public.  The British did their work in a publicly visible wiki.  Several NB&#039;s took public comments and posted the comments that they received.  &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Of course, although I do not have a staff reviewing OOXML for me, I don&#039;t live in a vacuum.  I&#039;ve benefited from the contributions and perspectives, both technical and strategic, of many, a small number of whom show up on my blog roll.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;So when we look at the &quot;irregularities&quot; and the things that have gone vastly wrong in this process, we shouldn&#039;t lose track of the things that have gone right.  We may have need of them again someday.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know the feeling.  I&#8217;ve been accused by one reader of having a staff of grunts pouring over the OOXML specification looking for problems, that this couldn&#8217;t possibly be the work of one person, working part time on reviewing OOXML.</p>
<p>My plan is to take that comment and show it to my boss when I have my annual performance review.  It should be worth something.</p>
<p>Or maybe I&#8217;ll just rename my blog to &#8220;My Name is Legion&#8221; ?</p>
<p>But I do note that there has been a great sharing of information in the best open source tradition.  We say it in the 30-day contradiction period on Groklaw, and that idea caught on.  The US comments and mailing list archives were made public.  The British did their work in a publicly visible wiki.  Several NB&#8217;s took public comments and posted the comments that they received.  </p>
<p>Of course, although I do not have a staff reviewing OOXML for me, I don&#8217;t live in a vacuum.  I&#8217;ve benefited from the contributions and perspectives, both technical and strategic, of many, a small number of whom show up on my blog roll.</p>
<p>So when we look at the &#8220;irregularities&#8221; and the things that have gone vastly wrong in this process, we shouldn&#8217;t lose track of the things that have gone right.  We may have need of them again someday.</p>
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